As often happens with discussions about violence and gun control we end up talking past one another. I am just as guilty of that as the next person.
I like how Kurt kind of circumvents that with this discussion on the research from Jen Ludwig.
When I think about different kinds of violence I tend to think of broad categories such as:
*Social violence (2 guys have escalating conflict)
*Predatory violence (criminals looking for prey)
*Political violence (i.e., the awful Hortman killing)
Etc
All might have different approaches. The approaches get muddled when one solution (i.e., gun bans) is trotted out ala Gov Walz & the DFL.
Kurt makes it pretty clear that the discussion about behavioral economics could help with what I call social violence. And I definitely agree with him.
Let's get Kurt to run for City council in 4 years! Okay I take that back, they can just hire him as a consultant 🙂 probably be more effective that way! Thanks 👍
It seems like we used to know much of this theory and actually had it worked into our curriculum. Perhaps it was replaced by new and improved and thus stopped teaching our children some of these basic life coping skills.
Being old I am amazed at how many people these days are afraid to make a mistake, some are overly cautious, others will not even try unless it can be done correctly. Then there are those that just will not admit they made a mistake. I always ask, didn't you ever play the game Simon says, it was supposed to teach us that everyone fails and that it's not the end of the world. The other perhaps more dangerous concern of mine is that the moving vehicle always wins when crossing the street. I think our parents were beyond diligent with this one but somehow years of everyone stopping for school bus has created several generations of people that think they are always seen when crossing the street. It's like looking both ways before crossing the street and looking for eye contact are no longer necessary.
I don't mean to sound trite, but I remember being talked to in the middle of the night as a teenager and being sent home on my own which I don't think they do today. I know policing was never perfect but there was a more human aspect involved before all the gadgets. Perhaps emotion rules out in the end as retribution rater than reform.
I know Mary Moriarty was not completely wrong in our need to reform the system but much of her plan was directed at after and perhaps did not require enough mental evaluation and a change of environment. We know so much more about mental health and diagnosis of personality defects that it seems like we should start to also consider liklyhood of recidivism along with maybe would the public be safe? Starting early in the grade schools again with quick simple games and discussions might benefit all. I think the trick is to reach the ones we can before the gangs get ahold of them. Perhaps if given the tools for reason early can allow them to possibly be relearned.
Complicated subject, especially when another aspect of human behavior is the need to find solutions and assign blame. Although I support strong gun laws, I also believe such laws will have minimal impact and are taking up a lot of political space better spent on other issues. I like the Kurt approach because it takes a practical approach to providing common sense tools to individuals that can help in all aspects of their lives.
As often happens with discussions about violence and gun control we end up talking past one another. I am just as guilty of that as the next person.
I like how Kurt kind of circumvents that with this discussion on the research from Jen Ludwig.
When I think about different kinds of violence I tend to think of broad categories such as:
*Social violence (2 guys have escalating conflict)
*Predatory violence (criminals looking for prey)
*Political violence (i.e., the awful Hortman killing)
Etc
All might have different approaches. The approaches get muddled when one solution (i.e., gun bans) is trotted out ala Gov Walz & the DFL.
Kurt makes it pretty clear that the discussion about behavioral economics could help with what I call social violence. And I definitely agree with him.
Let's get Kurt to run for City council in 4 years! Okay I take that back, they can just hire him as a consultant 🙂 probably be more effective that way! Thanks 👍
Excellent points. More tailored solutions to different types of violence would likely increase effectiveness. There’s no one-size-fits-all approach.
It seems like we used to know much of this theory and actually had it worked into our curriculum. Perhaps it was replaced by new and improved and thus stopped teaching our children some of these basic life coping skills.
Being old I am amazed at how many people these days are afraid to make a mistake, some are overly cautious, others will not even try unless it can be done correctly. Then there are those that just will not admit they made a mistake. I always ask, didn't you ever play the game Simon says, it was supposed to teach us that everyone fails and that it's not the end of the world. The other perhaps more dangerous concern of mine is that the moving vehicle always wins when crossing the street. I think our parents were beyond diligent with this one but somehow years of everyone stopping for school bus has created several generations of people that think they are always seen when crossing the street. It's like looking both ways before crossing the street and looking for eye contact are no longer necessary.
I don't mean to sound trite, but I remember being talked to in the middle of the night as a teenager and being sent home on my own which I don't think they do today. I know policing was never perfect but there was a more human aspect involved before all the gadgets. Perhaps emotion rules out in the end as retribution rater than reform.
I know Mary Moriarty was not completely wrong in our need to reform the system but much of her plan was directed at after and perhaps did not require enough mental evaluation and a change of environment. We know so much more about mental health and diagnosis of personality defects that it seems like we should start to also consider liklyhood of recidivism along with maybe would the public be safe? Starting early in the grade schools again with quick simple games and discussions might benefit all. I think the trick is to reach the ones we can before the gangs get ahold of them. Perhaps if given the tools for reason early can allow them to possibly be relearned.
Complicated subject, especially when another aspect of human behavior is the need to find solutions and assign blame. Although I support strong gun laws, I also believe such laws will have minimal impact and are taking up a lot of political space better spent on other issues. I like the Kurt approach because it takes a practical approach to providing common sense tools to individuals that can help in all aspects of their lives.